Why podman needs to run as root ?

[trya2l]

Hi guys,

First of all, a big thanks! I can't believe I'm currently running PyTorch with my radeon 760m igpu!! Awesome!

I just wanted to know why it is needed to run the container as superuser ? I tried to run it unprivileged podman run ... but then the hipcc hello-world example stopped working.

Is there a way to avoid running as root ?

[chboishabba]

@trya2l hi mate, i'm not dev here but presumably because you're needing to hardware passthrough the GPU? the way to avoid requiring root is presumably to build...

[trya2l]

Thanks for the reply. Maybe you're right, but in fact, the question came when I was reading through rocm instructions from amd website.

There is a guide to run rocm under a docker container without root user, so I was wondering if it was really required

https://rocm.docs.amd.com/projects/install-on-linux/en/latest/how-to/docker.html

https://rocm.docs.amd.com/projects/install-on-linux/en/latest/install/3rd-party/pytorch-install.html#

[chboishabba]

If you're using the builder, it is not an AMD project. There is likely some way to do it, but you likely need root to build, which is the core purpose of this project. At a guess, 760m is similar era to my card, which is RX580. I have been 'helping' with this project: https://github.com/robertrosenbusch/gfx803_rocm/ which I believe has benefited from the SDK project, among others. If the case is as I said, these cards are not usually supported for GPGPU, and rr's project, and the SDK aim to restore this. It seems to have been helpful for some of the newer AMD cards as well. :)

[chboishabba]

Meant to say that docker I linked does not require root afaik, though you do need user to be in appropriate group (kfd or something)

[trya2l]

Sorry for the late reply — I missed the notification. There may indeed be some ways, and I'm interested in looking into this further. Do you think here is a good place to ask questions, or maybe there are better places to ask ?

[chboishabba]

There may indeed be some ways, and I'm interested in looking into this further.

This repo and the one I linked above are both fairly relevant. In any case, I believe the above repo uses this repo to build, which you will likely need to do if 760m does not support ROCm OOB. With that said,

#AI
does amd 760m support ROCm OOB?

The AMD Radeon 760M, being an integrated GPU based on the RDNA3 architecture (found in Ryzen 7040/8040 series and Ryzen Z1 mobile APUs), does have a degree of ROCm support, particularly on Linux.

Here's a breakdown:

    RDNA3 Architecture: The 760M is part of the RDNA3 family, and AMD has been expanding ROCm support for RDNA3 GPUs.
    Official Support for Radeon 7000 Series: AMD's official documentation for ROCm on Radeon GPUs explicitly mentions support for the Radeon 7000 series, which includes the 760M.
    Linux is the Preferred OS: While there's some limited support for ROCm on Windows (often through WSL or specific applications), Linux is generally where you'll find the most robust and "out of the box" experience for ROCm with Radeon GPUs. Many users report success running ROCm with RDNA3 cards on Linux distributions.
    Potential for Configuration/Tweaking: While often described as "working," it might not always be a completely seamless "out of the box" experience for every application or specific setup. You might need to ensure you have the correct drivers and ROCm versions installed, and in some cases, environment variables like HSA_OVERRIDE_GFX_VERSION might be necessary. (I need to use this as, like I said, ROC is not officially supported on my card, but it's much older than yours.)
    Focus on ML/AI Workloads: ROCm is primarily designed for high-performance computing (HPC) and machine learning (ML) workloads. If your intent is to use the 760M for such tasks, the support is geared towards that.

In summary, the AMD Radeon 760M does support ROCm, especially on Linux, as part of the broader RDNA3 architecture support. However, depending on your specific use case and operating system, you might need to follow AMD's installation guides for ROCm and potentially do some minor configuration.

If you're on windows, I have heard that some have had success with WSL for using ROC.

In any case, you may be able to just use the roc packages via whatever package manager you use. The SDK compiles its bins to a separate folder to the default, official installation path to prevent conflicts. The source command on the main page is responsible for managing this, I believe.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Testing-the-performance-of-AMD-Radeon-780M-760M-iGPUs-with-new-drivers.740311.0.html

Do you think here is a good place to ask questions, or maybe there are better places to ask ?

This repo is likely the place to ask if official binaries do not function for you. There is likely a template you will need to use to have your issues addressed by admin. You should be able to get a fair way using the free GPT in github if you need :)

Otherwise feel free to respond here and I will assist as I can :)

@trya2l

[chboishabba]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-AMD-Radeon-760M/3923vsm2119237