Make self attrs overridable #13831
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Make self attrs overridable #13831
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Motivation
The self attributes should (I believe) be used as defaults, but currently setting a self attribute makes it silently ignore any explicit values passed by consumers.
Context
Noticed this while working on #13743, but decided to move it to its own PR to avoid adding noise there. Have not created an issue for it though, and cannot find any relevant issues to link against.
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